If she does it would open up a whole new line of enquiry.Adrian. and do the best thing by him that we could possibly do.'. Was it an accident? After all, the authorities didnt find Karlie. I couldnt see him, I couldnt hear him, it was the world, you, its like, the world just came to a [screaming halt], I just, there was no wind, there was no birds, there was no movement there was nothing.She tells us what she "couldn't see" and what she "couldn't hear". The inquest heard how a man who claims he saw William Tyrrell unrestrained in the back of a speeding car on the day the child went missing was waiting for police to interview him to tell them what he saw. I have also transcribed Melissas first FB Live statement from the day Karlie disappeared and her sensitivity to all things car related continues. In that case, her actual location may be somewhere south of her home town Chalfant. You may ask someone in the vicinity if they saw anything. Police returned to the house from which William disappeared to search vegetation (above), a conc rete slab and a water tank onthe property. 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Operator: OK. Would he have had any shoes on do you know? The foster mother, now 56, was at the home with her own mother with William and his sister when the boy is believed to have disappeared. "At every opportunity, they have done everything to degrade our privacy," the foster mother said. On one contact visit supervised by Ben Attwood from the Salvation Army, the birth and foster mother passed each other, but they never met. Also: the umpteenth reference to head -> crashing through your brain in a split secondINTERVIEWER: And what was the time between when you last saw him and when you realized he was missing? FOSTER MOTHER: Ummm.there's big, eh, glassygrassy clump of grass and I thought maybe hes hiding in that and I raced down there and I raced back up again and, and I think mum must have heard me yelling out for William because she's standing up and sh I walked back around to where we were sitting and shes standing and I just said 'Is he here?" If she had told us she thought abduction was a possibility because Karlie hasnt been found in the desert so we need to explore other options, I would have been quite happy to buy it. Wasnt she supposed to be inside? Bleeding?? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTh6DM5FEAY, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0H5fhsGSVOM, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxxLQ_K5ljY, http://williamtyrrelldisappearance.blogspot.com/2015/10/in-their-words-william-tyrrells-parents.html, https://www.news.com.au/national/nsw-act/news/william-tyrrells-inquest-starts-in-sydney/news-story/18267d344c2cf0398eb9a3d69832f230, https://www.9news.com.au/national/william-tyrrell-investigation-burnt-out-car-might-be-clue/100eb4d8-1367-424d-acec-089163288300, https://www.themorningbulletin.com.au/news/burntout-car-linked-to-william-tyrrell-mystery/3519846/, Parents of Five Year old Reported Missing Arrested. The court heard the foster mother had her father's grave photographed by a stranger and posted on social media. In one case, a man was deceptive about his young toddler who wandered off but was murdered by a pedophile on the block. And like him, the identity of most remains protected under The Children and Young Persons (Care and Protection) Act - a piece of legislation designed in the interests of the "safety, welfare and well-being" of young people in care. They were the parents of at least 4 sons. On the morning of September 12, his foster grandmother told police, William was 'full of beans, jumping out of his skin with energy'. The following quote is from Peters excellent book Wise As a Serpent; Gentle As a Dove: Dealing With Deception (p. 109) Cindy said to the press "George and I don't believe Caylees`s in the woods or anything"Adrian. Ever! Nor has she indicated any concern for him. The transcript I worked from is inaccurate, it has omissions. Its inclusion shows she has a need to convince the listener that the child was very close to her. Did she quickly realize she didnt want to and say other daughter instead? Omg the poor bio MomI just watched the video. [She was awake]If she was there hanging out why would we need to be told she was awake. I just dont find it believable. Autumn Its a good point you make about the women seeming to be the ones taking the leading role in similar cases. In recent times, William Tyrrell's foster mother has been an enthusiastic tuckshop mother and cheerful presence at her daughter's primary school in an exclusive suburb. I have found proof in the police interview that the Father has been totally deceptive and combined with other language strongly suggests there was a car accident where he ran his son over the morning of disappearance. They just didnt belong to some clairvoyant child abductors i.m.o.. Willliam was deemed a long term placement in the care of the FACS Minister in April 2013. I'm not a murderer! That's not a reliable denial.Like you said it is not a reliable denial. The foster mother says "We heard him and then we heard nothing." And I look at that picture and I just think, minutes, minutes, and our world has changed. On its page, the group advocates for a Coronial Inquest into Williams disappearance, something they now hope possible as a result of this weeks victory. I know there are sightings by three witnesses. The danger seems to be that they can take things a little far and overplay things. Sack the police, you lot have solved it!! OT (con't) I had to go to the bathroom, brush my teeth, wash my face, she was by my side the whole time. Operator: OK, so I've got the nearest cross street being Ellendale crescent, is that right? She chooses these details to report all relating to his head. How did I try to shut someone down? Did they break or take a turn at Laws to hide Karlies body?-I know her and she wouldnt leave for this long! I can feel it. So every time we go somewhere I have my camera and I just take pictures of what theyre doing, and I thought, ehm, you know, Mums getting old, be really good for William and William and his sister to have, ehm, memories of being at Mums. Neither of the foster parents can be named for legal reasons. 'Imagine waking up to an unsubstantiated article published by a large media outlet claiming a 'senior officer' within NSW Police shared that they have a NEW person of interest, whilst inferring that this heinous crime is on the brink of being solved,' they said in a statement shared to their 'Where's William' website. Her use of descriptive terms related to death. She obviously doesnt as she approximates. This other daughter could have been visiting her grandmother at the same time as William and other family members.As far as I am aware on the morning of Williams disappearance there was the mother, father, grandmother and Williams sister at the property. Why does she think Karlie is not in the desert? OT Melissa Guese Direct lie told.I was searching for information on Karlie Guse case and came across the video which Leigh had transcribed. Autumn I think you have nailed it.I will have a look at that video now. William Tyrrell's foster mother was grilled over bombshell allegations that the missing boy died when he fell from a veranda and she disposed of his body . I am aware there are many reasons for past tense usage in statements. Looks interesting but there is a lot of text to analyse in the full statement.Adrian. I mean, I was awake and then Id doze off and she's just there, she was just hanging out. "No other family member should ever feel the need to fight tooth and nail in order to maintain commitment to find out what happened," she said. THEY SAW THE FRECKLE. [Ah hes in, hes in, hes in his bright clothes.] There is a documentary on YouTube called AUSTRALIAN BIGFOOT: The Vanishing of William Tyrell 2017. I thought is he hiding from me, wheres he gone, has he come around the other side of the house and we havent seen him, has he decided to go under the house, has he decided to go, you know, anything, I, I didnt know.NOTE: Daddy Tiger was a hide and seek sort of game. She described him as 'a very masculine child' who when he was playing on her deck that morning 'rolled the dice very hard'. Regardless we must note that the operators question is not answered with a direct yes or no. Autumn. A complicated family tree has only added to the mystery surrounding the baffling disappearance of William Tyrrell. https://7news.com.au/news/nsw/man-and-woman-charged-with-alleged-assault-during-william-tyrrell-investigation-c-4591835. We know nothing about it. Firstly they are offering without request that information; we question why innocent people feel the need to do so. I've been looking at part one of the links I send.I find it kind of hilarious (though this probably isn't the right word for the circumstances, by lack of other description)Kate shows us the last time she went check on the kids.She tells how she was standing outside the door when she noticed it to be open more then they had left it (if they went on turn to check on the kids, how would she know the door wasnt left further open then she maybe had left it open when she went to check before? Perhaps William tried to get out of the tree by himself? In early September, aleak from a NSW Police source revealed cops had zeroed in on a suspect which prompted William's foster family to issue a scathing statement downplaying the claims. The analysis I did on the fathers comment in my previous post showed he said:"I mean, he [wouldnt], hes [not] a wanderer, he [wouldnt] [even] cross the street by himself. Did he go to a car-wash?Autumn. In all of the cases there is some level of neglect and I believe it is how the person personally interprets that amount which decides on their actions. Thats ok. I would suspect that a lot of rumours would have been be circulating in the community about what had happened to Karlie, and Melissa was forced to address some of those in her lengthy and jumbled statement. This is a general question-is there a forum where other statements from cases can be analyzed by everyone? God please be with her & bring her comfort.It was the evil POS foster parents that did it. According to Melissa, Zac was intoxicated the evening of Oct 12th and that's why she went to pick her up. I am an adult in the autism spectrum and the extraneous comments are too much for me. Six essential household appliances now cost 450 a year to run as prices surge by 58% since the #NoMowMay pits neighbours against each other: Britons are accused of eco-shaming with new green fad that Saboteurs derail Russian freight train with explosives 37 miles from Ukraine and destroy power cables in Pictured: 'Much-loved son', 35, stabbed to death in knife rampage outside Cornwall nightclub which left Leeds players APOLOGISE to their fans and admit 'there's no excuse' for the way they ignored kids waiting to 'I've been stuck in A&E since 10.30pm last night please just pay NHS staff fairly': Tearful A&E patient Martin Lewis reveals how to get a cheaper supermarket shop and FREE food. Maybe shell show up tomorrow, or in a weekor what if she never comes home? It`s just very hard. Harm is a word which covers a wide range of injuries; harm can be mental or physical and it can be minor or fatal. I've learned to scroll through and pick out the posters I know I can read and learn from. And, I want you guys all to know. So if I know nothing why would I tell someone that I know nothing? Bishop PD, CHP flying overthey had their copter today. , updated While William's foster-father took a teleconference call from a nearby pharmacy, William, his sister, foster-mother and foster-grandmother enjoyed a relaxing morning at home, the inquest heard on Monday. Does the Foster Mother know characters she does not trust? 'Up until the beginning of the year William called me Mum. The foster grandmother is conspicuous by her absence in interviews - as I recall, she also did not attend the inquest. The only explanation I can see is that she does in fact have another daughter, but that daughter is from a previous relationship and is an adult. I am just listening to the Nancy grace interview Leigh linked to.The parents were not very helpful at all. What she gong to say next? You guys all want her home. I immediately got out of the carThats a big difference in a few lines of text, who knows what new information we might discover if we revise the transcript fully.Adrian. I would really appreciate that.Thanks,Autumn. "The children were excited to see nanna," Mr Craddock said. Looking at either the first or second use of the word we end up with the same outcome which is deceptive language.A clever criminal may commit a crime and then drive round in order to be witnessed by others so as to appear they were looking/searching for a missing person. AutumnIt is very strange language for sure. william tyrrell disappeared from Kendall NSW Friday 12th September 2014.William and his sister were in the care of foster parents, whose identities are legal. Um, and, uh, I'd fell back asleep and then that's when I woke up and she was gone. Then shaving it off? If someone is there hanging out we automatically draw the conclusion they are awake. The White Mountain Peak is situated north/east of their home town Chalfant. William Tyrrell's foster parents charged over the alleged - Reddit A surprise for both the children and Nanna. In that case the fact that her daughter was also a foster child was probably (1) at the forefront of the foster mother's mind and (2) something the foster mother didn't want to draw attention to. This kind of confusion of pronouns is not natural. April 17- William's foster parents speak publicly for the first time in an emotional video released through police which does not identify them. The foster mother's parents were respected, community-minded residents of the tiny town of Kendall and wereinvolved in a heritage group on the NSW Mid North Coast. I do think she is crazy (BPD?) William's biological father slammed authorities for letting them down. 'The visit before he called me his "birth mum".'. This is not a child gone missing in the bush, this is heading down the path of abduction or something more sinister.Is he buried "down the path" in the "bush"? She is clearly trying to correct him i.m.o. The language of William Tyrells father:P: So you raised the alarm immediately?M: Well I raced around for a bit, then went down and got the neighbour to help, then D came back, because he had a meeting.D: I had a meeting and [I arrived back] and there was a [bit] of confusion if William was with me, because hes always looking out for me and my car, and [I was on my way back], and [Id arrived back] [and been asked] if William was with me and I said no, then I [immediately got out of the car] and started [looking around], and within 5 minutes we raised the alarm and I [think] I ran the perimeter of the whole street within about 10-15 minutes, and I mean, he [wouldnt], hes [not] a wanderer, he [wouldnt] [even] cross the street by himself. She was just right there, just, something's wrong. CINDY ANTHONY: Is there any -- CASEY ANTHONY: Mom, we`re not talking -- I can`t. What ai meant by muddies the water is that the ongoing comments such as Michael's are way far apart from actual statement analysis and the principles Peter focuses on and reads way too much into it. If she had told us that D had simply returned it would leave open the question of where did he return from? He [wouldnt] go far. And, so, we ended up back in the living room with her brothers for a little bit. He wouldnt go far.Here the foster father over-emphasizes arriving back and William being with him (I arrived back, I was on my way back, Id arrived back). Yes, his favorite toy was a doll but I think that doesn't necessarily mean anything. "Because of some of the media, the world is blaming us, we have had six years of pain and broken promises," Ms Swift told the court on behalf of the family. I feel a little helpless here. But the most interesting part of the above quote is yet to come. These attacks were on top of experiencing something "no parent should ever have to endure," the court heard. I found it clear and respectful.Autumn. William's biological parents had been seeing him every month, but as he became a long term placement that access was reduced to bimonthly. She gives the reason for her statement and we see it is [because] obviously the trolls are roaming. The coroner orders an urgentprobe into the final image that was taken on the day William vanished as metadata suggests the picture may have been taken 118 minutes earlier than originally thought. hear. Melissa (herself) 2. In 2016, despite the foster parents' and FACS' argument against it, the NSW Supreme Court granted Ms Smith's application to reveal William as a fostered child at the time of his disappearance. Maybe because two cars were involved. Guardian Australia understands this occurred at a hearing before the NSW Crime Commission a body that works alongside police to investigate serious crimes. You mentioned the actual act of hanging, which I hadnt considered. If you look at Melissa's first FB post she's wearing a white shirt. William was put into foster care not long after he was born, and the court heard his biological father "has never been the same since". Heartbroken Natalie Collins, 57, yesterday revealed her son Brendan Collins' criminal past, drinking problems and rows with William's mother Karlie Tyrrell. OT: Karlie GuseAnd, Im putting this out there because, um, it's going on 10 hours that shes been missing and I want to put this on blast because I dont think shes out in the desert.Wasn't it Casey, Cindy or George Anthony who indicated in a statements that Caylee Anthony would not be found in the woods, (or words to that effect) and yet she was.? Another example is Isabel Celis. Autumn, you make some good points. I get the impression she may have tried to revive him in vain. Those are the words of the parents not mine. Often, but not always this is domestic violence. There is ingratiation, but it is there as an attempt to butter the recipient up. : William hit his head, died and they made his body disappear? And so, I'm here to tell you guys all about it. If his hair was longer, shaved, etc. In general it would be fair to say we always see something so in this case we expect I saw he was gone etc.. He was last seen at his foster grandmothers home in Kendall, NSW. Any vehicles?Foster Mother: No, no, no, no well not that I know not that I'm aware of. In March, a man understood to be Tyrrells foster father was charged with a similar allegation in relation to information he provided to the NSW Crime Commission. William Tyrrell's former foster mum 'knows where he is', cop claims