How about paint quality? Introduce Yourself/ WIYB (What's In Your Bag), Lessons, Drills, Mental Game, and Fitness Tips. that would be true in large part. Its not the arrows, its the Indian guys. Discover more about the small businesses partnering with Amazon and Amazons commitment to empowering them. Oh , incidently, this thing about the heights of people I feel is not an important part of the fit. First I will answer the bottom line question "Do the clubs from Hirekostand up to Maltby?" Iron Set for Men (5,6,7,8,9,PW,AW,SW) Right Handed with Regular Flex Steel Shaft, WHI-711, Set 9 pcs(4,5,6,7,8,9,PW,GW,SW) or Individual, Iron 7 for Men Right Handed Golfers -(Flex- Regular), Kids Golf Set with Glove, Balls, Tees, and Towel, Golf Season is Here. Training Aids, GPS Devices, Apps, Accessories & More! SWIFT) Up closeummmnot so much. 3 golfers were asked to hit a series of 12 shots with each driver. I no longer build drivers or sets, because I was checking iron set I received and the individual weights varied as much as 12 -15 grams which can be huge. Once the swing is dialed in, then perhaps rewarding yourself with an expensive set of clubs is a great goal. Complete junk notwithstanding its all about your swing. Apart from obvious esthetic differences, one noteworthy point of differentiation is that the Tour Burner takes a .350 tip shaft, where as the clone (the Heated), takes a .335. I started getting their catalogs in the 80's and buying from them. Personally, I think his sentence would be more accurate. It may still happen, but it is less and less. It would seem Value Golf is where the Pinhawk clubheads originated. A former assistant groundskeeper about to become the Masters champion. So to sum it up, the component industry made a lot of the modern technology way before the major OEMs had any of this gear which to me says that the component industry has a lot more Firsts than any of the OEMs put together. Irons | Golf Galaxy Why buy a clone when you can get very good used OEM or used component clubs from great firms like Wishon or KZG? Lie Angle Adjustments We can change lie angles to fit your golf swing in almost any golf club. Ive been eyeing the Dynacrafts, and drooling over the KZGs. Hed have the components assembled at his warehouse outside of Los Angeles and would distribute them to retailers all over the U.S. The golf business was so good between 1991 and 97, you could sell anything, Jethro says. An excerpt from Pssst . It also amazes me that anyone can play summer league baseball with a beat up mitt and an older bat, or a game of school yard basketball with an old ball and still have a lot of fun, but with golf people are made to feel they have to keep up with not just technology, but the Joness as well. Hireko stuff is reasonable, and priced quite well. Had to get a hybrid custom built cos the Affinity hybrids swing weight was indifferent to the irons. Ever since the late 80s and their gain in popularity and pro shop owners not happy with their profit margins on name brand clubs began selling clone golf clubsgolfers have always wondered. As with our test of the Shotmaker, shafts were spined and FLOd. The rest (save for some Ping), come from Japan. Ball Speed As you might expect, higher clubhead speed produces higher ball speed. Ultimately decided he needed something more forgiving, but overall was impressed. I had them custom fitted senior flex shafts. WebThis Meant grips, shaft, length and even tweaking the head itself. He explained that they design the clubs from Acer and most of the brands in their website. I picked up a set of King Snake MRs in the local ads for 25. Some features of a driver, its head size, for instance, cannot be protected, but others can. They make their own designs. (E.M. Clones come from the most of the same Chinese factories that produce Counterfeit clubs. QUALITY!! Asfar as the lower end of components go, the only ones that really deserve the bad rap are the "clones". A boyish 25-year-old Californian, he has been selling golf clubs since he was 15. I bought a pickup truck bed worth of components from the estate of a mom/pop club builder. Note that Pinhawk is a trademarked line of golf clubs not designed by Hireko Golf. Before posting this article I re-confirmed with 3 foundries that they do indeed make them for both markets still. Then if it is assembled, how well is it assembled. Featured Categories. I agree with some other posts. He mentioned they also had design input on the Pinhawk heads too. Please read closer. Typically a driver head weighs around 195-200g, a 3 wood head is about 210g, and a 5 wood is around 220g, but the single length driver and fairway woods are all 220g. From what I understand Dynacraft was a big name with amateur club builders and both dynacraft and hireko did/do a lot of club building education and seminars. WebGOLFDOM is THE Golfer's Store, complete with everything our customers need for on AND off the course. I give them 5 stars. While the TaylorMade Burner is a true glossy black, the Heated has what Id call a medium gloss gray. I have been hitting fitted Giga Golf TRX slot irons. Many clone companies and component companies offer product close in quality and performance compared to name brand equipment. Written by L Mayhew 2007 . If thats your game, then its hard not to argue with the 7.11 yards of additional carry (or 6.03 yards of total distance) that our testers showed with the Burner. Why? The topic were covering in Edition #2 of the MyGolfSpy Labs is one of the most debated topics the golf equipment industry has had for the past 30 years! No Research and Design Costs. Sorry the average golfer is not able to drop $3-400 for a driver or fairway wood. There are just too many cases backing up the problems. I haven't tried anything of theirs yet, but now I am willing to. These cases have been won in other industries. Thank you, Welcome to 2nd Swing - Shop Over 100,000 New and Used Clubs +, Online Only, Exclusions Apply - Extra 45% OFF Already Discounted Apparel with code, Complete Set Sale: Men's & Women's Name Brand From $529.99. They have a 6 iron length. Does anyone have any experience with any of the clubs, components, or company found at Hireko golf? The real enemy here is the counterfiet club not the knock-off, in an age where we are all trying to bring more people to this wonderfully aggrevating game I think that the knock-offs help fill a price point and allow more people to afford to play the game. That experiment ended due to never being able to gap the clubs well, especiallythe short ironsand wedges. First let me say that I am 88 years old and have been playing Hireko golf clubs, particularly their THRIVER for 8 years. Dont lump everyone into a category. Probably because I used cheap shafts I already had that were not really to my likening regarding feel/weighting. On the Heated its more noticeable, and perhaps even distracting. But: Fatigue, digestive progress of our breakfast, coffee, momentary humor, stance vaiation, conversational distraction, realizing the consequences of the hit, ball life, audience . Sound and Feel TaylorMade has a reputation for producing great feeling, great sounding drivers. Taylormade bought out Adams. Some such as Geek dont even sell irons. If a component seller such as Diamond Tour wants to be fully legitimate, they need to invest fully in true component companies such as SMT, and abandon the practice of selling Clone clubs. Of course, that has to be with an * because of of all the stuff I mentioned earlier. Yup, found that article. If you agree that Counterfeit Clubs and Copies are Illegal, does it not then bother you that even though Knock-Offs/Clones are currently Legal, they are still made by the same factories in China? Club Fitting & Repair - 1757 Golf Club Also illegal is a club that is very close to a direct copy and is termed either confusingly similar (if it infringes on company trademarks) or substantially similar (if it infringes on design patents). Go back to the drawing board and get a fair representation of the better quality heads and their nearest OEM head. Im not a big fan of clones or knock-offs. The average difference between the 2 clubs was just slightly more than .25 degrees, with the Burner producing the higher launch for 2 of our 3 testers. They were almost new and i could tell they had only been used a handful of times. I buy most of my club making supplies through GolfWorks but I will occasionally purchase golf shafts/grips from Hireko as they have really good closeout sales at times. Fast forward to now and Dynacraft is Hireko complete with Jeff Summit, a go to guru on club building and perfotmance that worked Dynacraft with Tom Wishon. So, in the end, I would never buy a clone wood, but have no problem playing clone irons and my preference for those has become GigaGolf as Ive found their quality quite good. If however, you place a premium on accuracy, though not as conclusive, there is some suggestion that the clone could be the more accurate of the two heads. Can you point me in the right direction? Iwant to know why you didnt do the same for irons? Cant find a reference when I Google it. Think Maltby has brand recognition as they have been around much longer and Ralph Maltby club making/repair/fitting schools are well established. Have you ever tried hitting a quality clone? There are several hundred factories. I know of at least 2 touring pro who wanted to be sponsored by KZG and use their clubs. For the clone model we tested a Heated H, which wed classify as a mid-teir clone of TaylorMades once popular driver. Just to finish it off, I also have DTGs S2 Pro 3h and 4h and Inazone CNC Shadow wedges. Oh and I like their hybrid and fairway wood models. i will give you this professionals point of view. Yes, theyve followed the design pack for years cavity back, perimeter weighting, thinner faces, titanium drivers, carbon fiber crowns, etc. A few reputable clone companies online get their product made at the same foundry that a few large name brand companies get their gear made. Testers Wanted: Maxfli Tour Series Golf Balls! . ive built mell clubs for 12 yrs.i made a mellow yellow driver,9.5 degrees, with a proforce stiff shaft.took it to course and was smashing it.a scratch golfer ask to hit it.he drove on an average,15 yards pass his ping driver.but would he let me make him one or buy mine?no way.ive made lots of clone clubs,but never made another like the bang mellow yellow.aas amatter of fact,i just received a new 10.5 degree mellow yellow head. Below is a lengthy paper that I previously wrote on the subject. What proved to be reality for our testers is that despite similar performance, thedifferencesin the subjective categories (in this particular case) are potentially enough to suggest that for some there is indeed $200 worth of improvement to be found in the Burner Tour. A counterfeit is a club design that purposely attempts to deceive you into believing it is the real thing. The cost of 4 through PW with customization, tax and shipping came to less than $400 and they were at my door Note I'm 68 and using A flex but with the right shaft for your game they will play to any flex. Four yardincrements makes it hard to play a course. GOLFSHOT APP and the MGS MEMBER VIRTUAL TOUR TRYOUT AND ANNUAL MEMBERSHIP DISCOUNT!! In my bag, Callaway I-Mix driver with Fuji 757 Speeder, Integra Quadratic 3-wood with a Golfsmith Snake Eyes shaft, (best damn fairway wood shaft Ive ever seen), 18* Snake Eyes hybrid, 3 PW Maltby MMBs, 54* Maltby Forged Wedge and 60* Snake Eyes Forged Wedge and a Maltby Putter. No wonder the golfing consumer doesnt take the component head biz seriously.when I read this type of stuff..I am bewildered. A lot of the posts in this thread are opinions, I prefer facts. This allows the golfer to use the same swing, on the same plane, with the same feel, for each iron in the set. THIS IS A FACT. Yup, found that article. Didn't find much else on here, so that's why I started the new thread to explore more. I have found lots of Maltby lovers The 2nd tier often makes some of the mid-size golf companies that a lot of you play but they also make some of the top components and clones for companies like Golfsmith, Hireko and Diamondtour . Amazon.com: Single Length Golf Irons If you choose to purchase new golf clubs from us, your clubs will be custom-built to your specifications at prices comparable to major online retailers. between OEMs (i.e., TM, Callaway, Mizuno, etc.) Truth isclones are good for people that just cannot afford a Major brand and/or a custom set! Are shafts or heads manufactured to a large (+-) tolerance with the (-) tolerance being the norm or are the parts manufactured to close tolerances? Same way with a bad club. GOLF MANUFACTURERS ANTI-COUNTERFEITING WORKING GROUP. So, I could care less about design copy as I am the quality that goes into a club. Didn't find much else on here, so that's why I started the new thread to explore more. As for the clone argument, are those on the side of the big manufacturers going to stay on their side if we take this argument to off brand manufacturers who design and make some very good clubs but dont have the budget to promote like the giants? Might as well play with a half set. PssstWanna buy some clubs? Golf Digest 14 Jul 2003.
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